Ruger Lcp Ii for Self Defense Ammo Review Forums

Hi folks, information technology'southward been a while...
I'm thinking nearly purchasing Ruger LCP II in .22LR, for a couple reasons. I would appreciate the site'south thoughts, feedback, etc...

Background - We accept a mix of S&Due west K&P full-size & M&P Shield in 9mm. Regularly carry the Shield... Thinking about a smaller, "pocket gun" for the reasons below...

Reason #1 - Educational activity new shooters - My 8 year one-time daughter is interested in shooting at present. Nosotros're learning in the back yard with BB guns the basics. Sight picture, trigger discipline, etc. She finds pistols to be a piddling easier than rifles correct now, merely because of the weight & comfort. We have an One thousand&&P full-size C02 BB gun with gas accident-back. She handles this gun and then-and then, but the grip is besides big for her easily. By comparison, her hand fits our M&P Shield well.

She's been to the range with me. (Indoor range.) Nosotros took the full-size CO2 BB gun, and she did shot well, and was OK with the environs. No doubt she'd become back once again, so it would be nice to have a good pistol for her to shoot, that she'd be comfortable with.

Reason #two - More carry options - I've been curious about an talocrural joint-gun for a few years, but have never gotten around to it. The ankle rig would be used for warmer weather dress clothing. Where a tucked in shirt without a cover garment would be the preferred dress. (Church, dinner, etc...)

Reason #2B - More than carry options again... The small gun could also be useful for other bear options for myself, and/or wife. It could be a pocket gun for either of us. Or a smaller, lighter gun for her to accept on runs, neighborhood walks, etc. Something that would be a meliorate choice for the waistband of her conditioning pants/shorts, or even the bra holsters that are bachelor...

More thoughts - I've never shot a .380 pocket-gun, simply I am suspicious that in a frame size that small, it would exist pretty uncomfortable to shoot. Particularly in a defensive situation where the start shot goes off OK, but the 2nd shot time is exceptionally longer. Obviously, the .380 would exist a no-get for training new/small-scale shooters like my girl. So the .22LR is bonny there.

And while many aren't fans of .22LR for defensive use, 11 rounds of information technology seems better to me than a sharp stick anyway...

In summary - It would offer a skillful preparation gun for new/immature shooters, and permit for more carry options. (Ankle carry, pocket conduct, etc...)

Delight share your thoughts. I capeesh it.
All good points. Kinda what I was thinking when I bought mine and I carry it equally a BUG sometimes. Like shooting fish in a barrel to shoot weak handed.
Problem is, I but don't trust information technology completely because of 22lr ammo. Mine does not like Velocitors or Mini Mags merely is pretty good with Aguila super extra 40gr round nose.

There's as well many better guns, in better calibers to trust a pocket 22. But I agree it'south meliorate than a pointed stick probably.
If Ruger offered a threaded option, I would buy two. I think they would exist a very nice option for kids learning to shoot pistol.
Could you make a recommendation, for a meliorate pocket-sized pistol, that would satisfy ankle/pocket carry, yet is still un-powerful enough for new, young children to shoot comfortably? I'chiliad open to other suggestions.
I can't recommend a gun that is skilful for self defense force and besides grooming a child.
In a close upwardly defensive situation, that happens quick, I'd rather take a pocketknife in a pocket than a 22 on my talocrural joint. So actually, I'd rather have a pointed metallic stick! (I'll admit y'all could do both) What I'm getting at is that I own a Ruger 22 LCP II and I don't use it for annihilation and accept considered selling it. It's a good tiny gun only I carry something with more power.

If you will be satisfied with the defensive capability of the little 22, and then I volition say the Ruger is a good gun.
That'southward fair. Opposite ends of the spectrum, with respect to the round's energy. (Cartel I utter the words, "knock downward ability...")

Maybe I am trying to impale likewise many birds with just one stone? I suppose I need to take my daughter to the LGS, and meet how SHE feels holding 1 of these.
My thoughts:
Is at that place anywhere I'd prefer to defend my life with a 22 rather than at least 9mm? No, nope, no thank you.
I'm not tucking (didn't tuck) in my shirt for church, dinner, home loan, firm endmost, and nobody said anything, anywhere.
If I had to tuck in my shirt for work, then a pocket 380 ("amend than nothing") or Smartcarry with at to the lowest degree a 9mm, perhaps tuckable holster.
"Better than nothing" is not a criteria nosotros use by choice to select a bear pistol, that is for when nosotros can't practise ameliorate .... tin can't =/= won't
Location where one might defend themself is contained of desired ASAP incapacitation potential and 9mm is acceptable minimum.
For yous and your wife for pocket carry I might say LCP in .380.
For girl, what virtually a SA 22 revolver?
A Heritage with the 3.5 inch butt and Birdshead grip are a cracking option for smaller shooters. They also take the manual safety.
Yes. Too many birds with ane rock.
I started my daughter at age eight with a 22 rifle, so 22 SA revolver, 22 DA revolver, Ruger Buck Mark, and and so up to larger calibers when she felt comfortable. It was a ho-hum procedure. I think she was 11 or then past the time she wanted to shoot a 38 special (she didn't want to be outdone by my friend'due south daughter).
She did all-time with handguns that gave her enough to hang onto, and severely disliked a little Taurus PT22 I idea she might like. "This gun stinks, Dad. It's too small." At 16 she still doesn't shoot tiny automatics well, though she does okay with snub revolvers.
The Little Crappy Pistol is simply adept for one matter, a paper weight.
I oasis't shot a LCP 2 .22, but I tin't imagine it'd exist a practiced gun to start a kid with. While it's low-cal, the curt sight radius and longer and higher trigger pull aren't going to build confidence. I started my daughter out at 6ish with a Ruger MKI. The target barrel was a little heavy for her simply somewhere I have a video of her going 8/nine at 7 yards at that age busting beer cans. Eventually I'd like to option up one of the Light versions for the rest of my kids, my daughter could only become through 4 or and so magazines before her artillery were too tired to hold upward the gun. Beretta Neos is supposed to be another light ane with a smaller grip, but I tin't confirm.
As far as recoil, I have the original LCP and I don't discover .380 in information technology to exist bad at all. Many claim it slaps them pretty practiced, but I don't see it.
As the possessor of both the LCP and LCP Ii, in .380 I believe the 2 is ameliorate for its intended awarding; back upward use or carry when a larger pistol is unavailable or impractical. The trigger is better, the sights are amend and the slide locks back on an empty mag.
That being said, I exercise carry my LCP 2 a lot. It'southward very hot hither, I'1000 not a big dude with lots of places to stash stuff and I rarely vesture a belt or long pants outside of work (Where I carry all twenty-four hour period.) The lightweight compact LCP 2 allows me to carry something, which is better than having zippo.

These small guns, even in .22, are not like shooting fish in a barrel to shoot well and tin atomic number 82 to frustration for new shooters. Similar the others above, a 4" Ruger standard or like sized gun is my beginner handgun for first timers.

Beginner revolver involves a four" Southward&West model 64 with wadcutters.

Subsequently a person is proficient with a handgun ameliorate suited for training would I then innovate a small framed gun similar an LCP or J frame to them. Same goes for larger guns/calibers, etc.; I'd rather they ease into it learning skillful habits than bound into it and exist chop-chop intimidated by their gun.

At present the LCP Ii in .22 is a great companion-training gun since .380 is expensive and not a whole lot of fun to shoot in a micro pistol. It can as well double as a "sample gun" for people to try out micro guns later on they get some experience with shooting larger guns, likewise as be a lightweight carry gun if one doesn't take another option. (Not a fan of .22'southward for defensive behave because of reliability issues, merely again, I think carrying whatsoever gun is better than having no gun.)

In endmost, it's a practiced gun for its role... merely I don't think that it's office should exist a training gun or first gun for a beginner. Cutting their teeth on a gun ameliorate suited and they'll exist much happier shooters.

Only i guys opinion that is no improve or worse than anyone else'due south .

Stay safe.
I own the LCP II .22lr. I like the gun, because information technology's fun to shoot, and it serves as a trainer for my LCP II .380. However, it hasn't been the well-nigh reliable gun in the world. Starting out, I had light strikes that seemed to go away after a few hundred rounds. Then, I started having a problem with the slide locking back with rounds still in the magazine. It went back to Ruger and they replaced the slide lock. I got it back, and on its first range trip, it had one premature lock dorsum in 110 rounds. Oasis't shot it once again yet, but I'm noticing at domicile that if I rack the slide with an empty mag, it doesn't lock back. I don't know withal whether it will do that while really shooting it.
The Ruger SR22 is Shield sized but lighter weight. Comes with two grip modules and fits minor hands actually well. Shoots dainty and is probably easier to learn with than a tiny gun
Mayhap information technology's just me, but I can't find a utilise for information technology. I have the .380 which I get, but the .22 version??
I carry a Walther p22 when trapping, I shoot coons and opossums in the head at a short-range, but for my defense gun, I carry a sig 365xl the Walther 22 is fun to shoot merely harder to hit the target but if y'all master information technology you will shoot larger guns ameliorate, and the ammo is much cheaper for practice
I volition look into it. A quick search looks like there's a threaded barrel model as well.
A LGS has a wall of pistols bachelor for handling, comparing, etc... I might have to bring my girl, and let her handle a few to see which feels near comfortable.
It's difficult to teach sight pictures when the gun doesn't accept sights.
I dear my .380 LCP - but - I tin only imagine how miserable it would be for some newbie to figure out what real sights are supposed to wait like - based on the miserable little things the LCP has.
If Beretta made a .22lr Pico - perhaps - just...
Maybe a Ruger SR22?

Oops - see that came up already.

Concluding edited: Mar 31, 2021
When my LCP Ii .380 wears my arthritic hand out, I can switch to my .22lr and keep shooting. From the standpoint of sight acquisition, point shooting and holster drills, it is, for all applied purposes, the same gun.
I got mine almost a year agone now as a Beretta Bobcat replacement. It'south been a great little gun, though CCI Stingers/Velocitors are a no-become. Anything else information technology runs groovy and is surprisingly accurate.
"I might have to bring my girl, and let her handle a few to see which feels virtually comfy."
I would accept saved some money a couple of times if I had followed that communication.
Buddy has one, and likes it, simply he's a .22 junky. He carries a .22 Centennial sometimes.
Concur that it makes a bang-up trainer, but .22 ammo is the issue; it doesn't always feed and it doesn't always burn down.
For a kid'southward trainer, something manually operated makes more sense; specially (please, due respect)for even the most responsible 8 twelvemonth old.
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I had to supercede my firing pivot a little after 850 rounds. The new firing pivot has gone about the same amount of rounds and still functions fine. The Crimson Trace light amplification by stimulated emission of radiation really brings out the accuracy of this gem. My existent problem with this gun is they had to go and brand 10 round magazines and it'south eating upward my supply of ammo. It loves Federal Game Getters, CCI Blazers, Federal Champions.
I have 2.
Best small .22 I've tried and I've tried well-nigh of them, Walther TPH and PPK .22, Iver Johnson, Smith 317, Beretta 21a and 950, several others. I like them all just the Rutgers are the best IMO. Small, lite, accurate, and almost of all reliable. Around the place I always have one with me.

They wait like they lock upwards barrel to slide but they don't - straight blowback although the butt tips downwards for feeding. Very clever.

Be sure to use the included mag loader.

fwiw, I've had a couple LCP .380s (non LCP IIs) which were not at all reliable.